Episode 56
Career Advice for Creatives: How to Find Work That Doesn’t Destroy Your Soul
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In this episode of Career Clarity Unlocked, career coach Theresa White sits down with Rebecca Scott—Content Marketing Lead at Venture for Canada, artist, and multi-passionate creative—to talk about what it really feels like to be a creative professional in today's career landscape.
Rebecca shares her non-linear career journey from studying psychology to working in marketing, entrepreneurship, and nonprofit leadership. Together, they explore the Sparketype® framework to reveal her core identity as a "Maker"—someone who thrives on creating but can feel deeply drained by forced, uninspired work.
This episode dives into the real tension creatives face: balancing their need for self-expression with the demands of traditional roles, dealing with burnout when their creativity is commodified, and learning to listen to their inner voice when it's time to pivot. Rebecca also opens up about finding fulfillment outside of work through art, poetry, and crafts, reminding us that honoring our creativity is essential for well-being.
Whether you’re a creative professional feeling stuck, a multi-passionate human searching for alignment, or someone who’s wondering if it’s even possible to find purpose-aligned work that pays the bills, this conversation is for you.
You’ll learn:
- How to navigate creative burnout in traditional jobs
- The difference between energizing vs. draining creativity
- How Sparketype can clarify your creative work style
- Why hobbies matter for mental health and creative freedom
- How to know when it’s time to pivot toward more aligned work
Episode Guide:
00:00 Introduction to Career Clarity Unlocked
00:48 Exploring Creativity in a Practical World
01:39 Meet Rebecca Scott: A Journey of Creativity and Career
02:42 Rebecca's Non-Linear Career Path
07:15 The Sparketype Assessment: Discovering Your True Calling
13:18 Balancing Creativity and Practicality in Marketing
18:54 Navigating Career Growth and Fulfillment
29:15 Phases of Creativity and Work-Life Balance
30:53 Entrepreneurial Challenges and Joy in Creation
33:51 The Conflict Between Creation and Marketing
38:08 Navigating Multi-Passionate Interests
49:26 Advice for Younger Creatives
53:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Transcript
Unlock. We're all about those light bulb moments. I'm talking to people who are still trying to figure out what they're meant to do, coaching them life to reach that magical, yes, this is it moment, and we'll also hear from those who've already found their dream careers and figure out exactly how they did it.
Whether you are looking for inspiration or actionable advice on finding a career you love, I've got you covered time to unlock some career clarity. Let's dive in.
s to life is what fuels you, [:Today we're diving deep into the reality of being deeply creative in a world that often overlooks underestimates or flat or misunderstands what creativity brings to the table. We talked about the challenge of finding work that lets you create without asking you to dte or having to fit into a box that's labeled sensible career path.
We are talking about chasing joy, balancing passionless, practicality, and navigating the biggest challenge of all trying to do the thing without draining your soul in the process. And I'm so excited because joining me today is Rebecca Scott. Rebecca is the content marketing lead at Venture for Canada,
cks to educational resources [:She channels her creativity, both in art and daily life. To stay active. She enjoys walking, working out at the gym, and practicing Pilates, balancing her professional pursuits with wellness and artistic expression. Let's get started.
Theresa: Welcome Becky, to Career Clarity Unlocked.
Rebecca: Thank you so much, Theresa. I am so excited to be here, and honestly, I've listened to so many episodes and just pinching myself because I'm like, oh, I get to be, I get to be on the other side of things, so thank you for having
Theresa: me.
Oh, thank you so much. That means the world. And I'm so excited to chat with you today and learn more about your career journey. And I would love if you can just walk us through where your professional journeys taken you so far, and rewind the clock and take us on that journey for a moment.
Rebecca: Oh my gosh, absolutely.
er and that is definitely my [:I. Even though I love, , connecting with humans. Um, so I'm really happy I didn't go through that. And there's like so many hoops you have to jump through, , in order to be fully licensed. So, um, instead of doing that, I ended up moving cities and switching careers at the same time. I don't know if I would recommend it, but I think it just really, , kind of forced me to think outside of the box.
ut their career journeys and [:That they took marketing in school and then they were, doing it in their career. And I was like, okay, that sounds so interesting. And I feel like one of the roommates in particular was very, is very creative. So I was like, okay, this could be like an interesting career path. Um, so I worked at a tech company and then I was an entrepreneur for a bit, and now I'm with a nonprofit that helps young individuals become more entrepreneurial.
Theresa: I love that you've been, it's been, yeah, it's been a nonlinear career path that so many people have. Do you ever feel like you had it all figured out? Was your career early on or not? And how did you navigate that?
Rebecca: Oh my gosh. , I still don't feel like I have it figured out. Um, no, definitely not. And I. I feel like there were just different moments where I felt the pressure, like for sure graduating high school and having to figure out what am I gonna study?
the idea of like, you know, [:Like, are you kidding me? Like, I couldn't, like, I can't, I can't do that. Um, so I feel like yes, I have felt that pressure, let's say externally. And then at other times I have definitely felt it like internally where it's like, okay, like I am, in like when I was in my late twenties, like I should have it figured out.
Um, and I would just say like, what's been the most helpful is instead of rushing to the next thing or thinking I have to figure it out right away, is really like pausing and reflecting. And even just like going through different exercises of, let's say like a values worksheet or even the spark type assessment.
on as you can about yourself [:Let me try it out.
Theresa: Yeah, I love that. And I feel like there is so much to be said about normalizing that we don't have to have it all figured out. Like, it's like you're supposed to have a question, like even like five year olds are being asked, what do you wanna be when you're grown up? And there's a lot of.
5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 year olds who don't know. And it's, yeah, it's that question that most of us carry around through life, so.
Rebecca: Hmm. Yeah. So true. And maybe we should flip it instead of like, what do you wanna be, it should, maybe it should be like, who do you wanna be? Or like what, what kind of
Theresa: person do you wanna be?
well obviously you wanna be [:I have no other choice. Right. But who is that, that is something we can discover all throughout our lives. Mm, absolutely. Yeah. And you just mentioned the spark type assessment. As you know, I love talking about it. For any listeners who have not heard about it, it's a assessment that was developed by Jonathan Fields and he describes the spark type as the unique imprint for work that makes us come alive.
And research has shown that the more a person's work aligns with their sparko type, the more likely they feel energized, excited, have a sense that what they do matters. They experience that state of flow and feel fully themselves and able to perform at their full potential in life. So when you took the sparko type assessment, um, your archetype profile was primary maker, shadow maven, and anti scientist.
ed, inspired on, on purpose. [:When you can start with an idea, then turn it into something that is in the world. How did that resonate with you?
Rebecca: Uh, I mean, literally I feel like, um, I had a light bulb moment, and I think it was specifically the, the catalyst for it was actually watching you and Katie doing a LinkedIn live. And you were both talking actually about being on the, on the scientist side.
Yes. And I was like, oh, that's so interesting. Like, I can relate to some of these points. But I was like, I don't think that that's where I'm at. So that actually was the catalyst for me. To do, doing the assessment. And then once I did, I was like, oh, that's my auntie. And I think it just really clicked in my head where I was like, ah, this makes a lot of sense.
ered a lot of questions , or [:It's like, of course, like it's anything to do with creation. It could be like creating a video or it could be, you know, creating, um, a felted piece or drawing or creating an article or, I mean, there's like a million things. So yeah, it was. Definitely like an aha moment.
Theresa: That is so cool to hear that that was an aha moment for you.
guring out complex problems, [:And it's not that when this is your anti, that you can't do it or that you're not good at it, but it's zaps your energy, it's, you can be great at it really, really good and have really well developed problem solving skills. Um, but if you have to do it all day every day, it's takes a lot of your. Battery, it empties your battery versus, yeah.
Creating seems to really fill your battery. How has that, energy drain played out for you? I mean, I can imagine with starting a business, there's all day, every day is figuring things out.
Rebecca: Yeah, absolutely. I feel like at the beginning it was like really exciting because I was like, oh, I, I have a vision and like, I want to put that out into the world.
it's like they, , like they, [:Given to them and then they can like, play around with it. And I feel like the projects that I love to work on the most were specifically with marketers who just like, like they were, you know, they're professional marketers and they're like, I just need help because I need like a second set of eyes. Or like someone who's a bit, who has a bit more distance from my business.
And I love that because it was just like, it was so clear I didn't have to like figure out a problem and I could like have fun with it. And it was truly like a win-win situation for the both of us. But I feel like when people came to me and they're like, you know, I think I might need like an article, but I think I might need like my website as well.
antastic. But I always felt, [:Like, you know, well, what would that process look like? Or what if someone else comes up to me like, you know, comes to me and, and they want X, Y, and Z? Like, how do I figure that out? And, and that to me drove me nuts and really drain my energy.
Theresa: Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. So, honestly, and I feel like that's so beautiful, shows that we need all the different sparker types in the world because I would be the person I'm like, cool, let me figure all this out.
And then I need someone like, can you make that happen? I figured, can you design this?
Rebecca: Yeah. It's almost like I'm like at the like end of the, of like the workflow in a way. Yeah. Right. It's like you have the people that are, that are doing the strategy and the problem solving and then, you know, you move through different phases and it's like, you know, me adding like a magic touch to it.
g it off so that it looks or [:Theresa: I love that. Yes. This is, we are the total opposites there because I like coming up as the, I like to figure things out, what we need and come up as the idea, but then I don't wanna do the nitty gritty of like, polishing it off, right?
Yeah.
And then your shadow spark type showed up as the Maven and Mavens are all about learning. It's like that lifelong desire to learn, to know, to keep going and become visor, like almost a near primal drive to know more. Did that resonate with you?
Rebecca: Yeah, absolutely. I feel like I can really go like on a deep dive into, it's interesting 'cause I think there's like phases that I, that I do this and it's not.
p there, or, I mean, I could [:So I definitely feel like if I'm at least excited or passionate about, about a certain topic, like I, I can definitely, , really do a deep dive into it. So absolutely that yeah. Fits to a t oh my God.
Theresa: And does it, do you get excited when you are creating something? So the process of creation and that requires you to learn and then you have to learn about how to do this, and then you can move to the next step in the creation and then learn more and move to the next process in the creation.
Yeah,
Rebecca: no, absolutely. I think e even like how it shows up, let's say like more, more in, in my work in marketing would be like, okay, let's say like storytelling. It's like I feel like I reach a certain level and then I'm like, okay, I wanna learn how to do storytelling, but like for Instagram reels specifically.
And [:Theresa: Yeah.
Rebecca: Yeah.
Theresa: Yeah, I like that you found that or are aware of finding the balance there. Yeah. I mean it's not perfect, but No,
and I'm, one thing I'm really Well, okay. No, two things I'm curious about. One, the Maker in Maven, they often feel like they're drawn and similar to me as a scientist, where I said like, I always look for a new problem to figure out and solve. Um, mavens, they want to keep learning and learning and makers wanna keep creating.
So a lot of times when I [:I wonder if that is a pattern you've ever experienced.
Rebecca: You're like creepily, um, yeah, you're like creepily, like nailing it. You know, it's, it's like it's real that, that hits like so close to home because, um, I feel like, I feel like I, I could say something like, oh, I'm someone that easily gets bored, and it's kind of true, but it's like a double edged sword, right?
in my day to day. Yeah. And [:I think starting a new role, it's always so exciting. 'cause you have to, learn the tools and, and the processes and you have to get to know, like, all your coworkers. But I feel like if I'm reaching a point where I'm repeating a lot of the same tasks from, you know, let's say like six months back and I, and I look, you know, I, I keep, I keep notes.
Like I, I keep my to-do list on actual like pen and paper. And so if I like go back and I'm like, oh my gosh, I've been doing the same stuff like for the last, you know, six or seven months and there hasn't been as much like learning and growing. I think those are the moments where I feel like, okay, I'm reaching like.
Like a plateau or I feel a little bit, um, I feel stuck. Yeah. If I'm gonna be fully honest. Yeah.
eed new. Learning and growth [:You need to create new things, otherwise you're stifled. And that is a challenge that I see with so many people that when we look for new roles, they always will be exciting in the beginning, almost always. Um, but thinking about that maintenance phase of like, okay, now you're, maybe it's a product development, right?
That could be super interesting for someone who loves to learn and loves to create and they help in the creation of the process or the product or the service. And then it gets launched and there's so much to learn, so much to create along the way. And then it becomes the maintenance stage.
Now the product is, or the service is, and now you're supposed to maintain that for the rest of the life. And if that was fun for some people, but for certain spec types, that's like almost painful of like, okay, yeah,
Rebecca: I.
Theresa: This is, I can't, like, you're,
Rebecca: it's almost like your, your soul is being, like, sucked out a little bit.
estion for you and, and I, I [:Theresa: take on that? Good question. I think the reaction of this is happening is a great awareness.
Yeah. And I would say, let's start before we hand in our resignation tomorrow, um, let's think long term. Yeah. And what's the overall vision. And a lot of people realize, okay, I need to find a role that allows me to consistently learn and grow, create, learn, grow, create in a continuous phase. For some people that could be working on projects, like I'll work on a project, move on to the next project.
e next, creating this market [:Or is it okay, I want to do product management. I'm gonna be on a big product that's gonna be for the next two or three years, and then I'm gonna look for the new role because that is how long I can stay excited. Yeah. When we figure out that pattern, like, okay, this is what we need long term to be fulfilled, then we can reflect on the current role.
Okay. Are those opportunities that exist within your company, is that a conversation you can have with your manager that you want to keep learning, growing? Maybe it is, learning more complex, , frameworks or yeah, ideas or creating more difficult products. Visuals, whatever it is. Like, is there a way to move up skill wise to go deeper into it where it doesn't run dry?
y then like, okay, let's see [:Rebecca: Yeah. Beautiful. I, I completely agree with you. And , and I love that you said, is there an opportunity to grow your skills rather than to, let's say like move up into a, a managerial position because.
Um, I think that that's definitely like, forced on us sometimes, or like, that's like expected. It's like, well, you're going to automatically like, you know, take on more responsibilities and, and mentor someone underneath you, but I really don't think that that's for everyone and Yeah. Truly, like I, that's definitely not one of my aspirations.
Yeah. To be, yeah. Like a VP of marketing.
Theresa: Right. And I'm so glad you're saying that because that is really like people are expected. Like then the next level up, you managing a team and then you managing a larger team and some people love that. There's people, yeah. There are certain archetypes who love coaching, advising, sharing knowledge.
Right. And every [:Rebecca: Right,
Theresa: right.
Rebecca: Yeah, that's true. That's true. I have some, a lot of organizations like that. Absolutely.
Theresa: I'm so curious because this is. A question that I've, I've asked myself many times, so many clients I work with who are makers, primary sparker types, they're drawn to marketing, which totally makes sense because it is a creative field.
to be creative, marketing , [:I mean, I
Rebecca: have so many thoughts on this. I wanna hear them all. I, first of all, such a great question and it's, and you're right, I think marketing is really advertised as like the, the ultimate creative position.
But, um, I think that, I think the nice thing about marketing is that there's both, there's like more data-driven people and there's also like very creative people. And then of course you find, um, individuals, let's say in the middle who have like a mixture of both. But I think you still see those, you see like a whole spectrum for sure.
Um, [:Like I actually love that 'cause it's really where I get to be creative and think like, okay, what, like what is this person thinking? And like, how could we, you know, sell this program to them essentially? Yeah. In like a fun way where it's just like, it feels like they, they can't help but say yes to it when they receive it.
gs, like, I'll be completely [:And it's not, I don't get a lot of excitement out of it. So I have to almost like find ways to, to make those tasks more exciting. Like, listen to music or, you know, go for a walk before. It's like, the aspect of marketing, maybe not being ultra fulfilling for makers. I also completely agree with you on that, and I could see it, and I'll speak for myself on it, is, and I say this to my friends, but I really don't feel like I'll be in marketing for, you know, long, long term.
omes to do with creating and [:Theresa: yeah. All
Rebecca: that stuff.
Theresa: Thank you for sharing that. Uh, two things , that came up for me is how do you feel about the creative freedom in marketing roles in general?
Because I was wondering if that could be something people struggle with is that you are so creative and you have a lot of ideas and you want to create things, but then it's very like, okay, here's the brand colors, here's the template, fill it in. Um, do you think that could be a part of that?
Of it being Yeah, not having enough freedom in some, in some, not in all, but in certain marketing roles.
Rebecca: I definitely think you have to find the right culture because that could make or break it like I was. At one point in a very like, traditional culture, I would say, where even though this, this is wild, I mean, even though they were in tech, they would say things like, well, like we've always done it this way.
I'm at now with Venture for [:So I would say like culture definitely matters. Yeah.
Theresa: Yeah. And I do think what you're seeing is exactly what I've seen is a lot of clients that are in big, large corporations where everything is very structured and things have been done the same way they've been done for the last 50 years.
And they want to, they have all these ideas and want to be creative, but then they're like, okay, but I can only have to, I have to stay in this box. Yeah. Yeah.
Rebecca: I will also say though, I think this is something else that I've, that I've realized, and I don't know if it's for all creatives, but I. Too much structure is not a great thing.
ity. Yeah. And, and you feel [:Theresa: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.. . Um, so having structure and expectations and guidelines is super important, but not being too boxed in. Yeah, absolutely. And the other thought that I had is. Not, obviously not all makers are the same. Every being creative shows up in every person differently.
Um, but some, a trend that I see is a lot of them gravitate towards wanting to create something with their hands, like physically. And I wonder if that is a piece that's also like, creating digitally is great, but I wanna touch the product. I wanna feel it, it like being be, it has to be. Is that something that you relate to?
osh. Like, yes. And I think, [:And I think I go through phases and actually you're making me realize maybe why is because I think it's like when I started any new position, it's always this, like this, this uphill like exciting. You know, you're learning, you're creating and it's great.
just feeling like very, very [:And I think now it's manifesting as like writing, but like writing with pen and paper. Wow. Yeah. I love that poetry to be specific. Yeah.
Theresa: Oh my God, I love that so much. That's amazing. Wow.
Rebecca: Thank you.
Theresa: And it's so, I also feel like work is not gonna fulfill or check every box or fulfill all of us. So it's really great when we can find outlets outside of work that fill the buckets that we can fulfill at work.
Rebecca: Exactly. Yeah. Absolutely .
Theresa: yeah. Yeah. My, my way is always like, work should always , energize you more than it should drain you. Yeah. If you come home from work and have more energy, then yeah.
Before that's great. But if you come home and your battery is empty and then there's nothing left to do outside of work that's not good. That's very, that's really not
Rebecca: good.
Theresa: Yeah.
al pressures you faced then, [:So what I wrote down was having a business equals solving a problem. So sure. In the traditional sense, right? Like if you have a business, you're solving a pain point. Whether it's like you, I don't know, you have a bakery and you're solving people's sweet tooth or whatever. Like there's, there's that mission behind it.
But I think when you're a maker, it feels conflicting because. It's just it, what matters most is the journey and not the actual outcome of I need to profit off of this. Yeah. And once you do, 'cause I've found this so many times, once I start putting that lens on it, it like just ripped the joy out of it and it sucks it out.
I'm not saying the two can't [:Okay, that's great. But I don't think her initial instinct is like, how can I make. 400 grand this year off of my art. I think it's like, what's going to bring me the most joy? And then in turn, it's gonna bring others a lot of joy. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's the, that's what we're solving, but it's so nuanced, you know?
understands their problems. [:You know, we're not coaching someone. We're not. We're not, um, selling a service necessarily, but we're putting this thing out into the world and we're just saying like, here, this brought me so much joy. And like, if it brings you joy, that's great, but that's not why I created it in the first place. Yeah. And it's, I think that really goes back to the process of creation.
Yeah. It's not necessarily about the final end product, it's really the process of creation that's so fulfilling. Yes. Exactly. And the reason why you create something is because the process of creation is, is so joyful. And the purpose is really to be in the process of creation and not Yes, to create something that solves a problem.
's so joyful to create this. [:Yeah. And that can be, I guess it can be fulfilling on some level, but it's. It's not like, Hey Becky, your job is to be creative for the next two hours and create something just for the process of creation. Yeah. But no, how, how quick can you get this flyer done? Yeah. Yeah. How, how quick can you get something done and is it gonna generate us like revenue or leads or, you know, all that other stuff.
So, and I, yeah, I, I think that's been definitely a challenge of. Being like, okay, I wanna do, okay, let's say like, there's an article I wanna write, there's an article I wanna write. This is so interesting. But then it's not a priority because it doesn't tie into the programs that we're launching right now.
this conflict of like, well, [:People who just enjoy the process of creation. And then the world we live in, where we're taught , everything we do , has to be efficient or has to have a profit or be monetized, in some way and no one is being rewarded for just cr the process of creation, but.
ke some instances where, um, [:Yeah. So it's almost like this, I don't wanna say rare mix, because I think that's not true. It's, it's just, you have to find this like combination. Yeah. You know, and when you asked like, okay, what are those moments where, um the primary shadow and auntie showed up in your work for life in meaningful ways.
ally like obsess about, like [:Yeah. And I was like, oh, HSP, you know, like highly sensitive person. So then, and this is like already toying in my mind, but I'm like. Well, if I were to combine the two, 'cause maybe that's like Yeah. Part of the magic as well. It would be like writing about being an HSP. Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah. Or, or you love learning about researching and then you create something Yeah.
Out of the information that you learned. Learned. Yeah. Or maybe it is, um. I don't know, hosting a drawing class for HSP people. Yeah. Or something. It's like would combine, yes. I don't know. Would, would combine the two.
Rebecca: .. I really feel like life and work like feed into each other. You know, if you're having a lot of fun outside of work, I think that can really, , seep in, seep into your work life. Yes. And it can also balance it out if you're not having so much fun at work, , I think that's okay too.
Balance it out where you're [:Theresa: And I know you've also mentioned that you've had just a lot of different interests and I feel like creative people often have. Did you find a way to navigate being multi-passionate and very creative and then wanting to do all the different things and having to pick one?
Pick one. Oh
Rebecca: my gosh. I mean, I feel like, I feel like I still struggle with this, where it's like I have a million ideas, like a million in one ideas just going through my head and I just need to get them out pen and paper. At least they're somewhere else and they're not in my mind, which is great. So I think that's just like one strategy that I've used when it comes to work.
I'm like more like practical [:, It's not like one or the other. And I feel like I. You don't necessarily have to just do like a complete 180 and be like, okay, like this is for sure the path. I mean, some people can, and that's fine, but, um, you know, that's not necessarily gonna pay my bills right away, nor do I want it to because it's still, it's a, it's a hobby, it's an outlet for me.
ke, yeah. I think if you're, [:Like, what else is that thing? So I would actually go through exercises in my mind, and I would, I would say like, okay. Oh, I'm, I'd love working out, I love Pilates. What if I became an instructor? And then instead of just like jumping in and, you know, getting a license to do that or spending a bunch of money, I literally just went through my head like, okay, what, what would it be like, like what would a day-to-day life of instructor be?
ome interior designer. Yeah. [:And to me, I just think like, do I really wanna be designing like somebody else's home? I don't know if that would give me like the ultimate fulfillment. Like it's more so their vision. Yeah. I also feel like it's their vision.
It's what they would want and what if that wasn't really what I wanted to create. Exactly. So it's almost like forced creation and I'm like, Hmm, I don't think that would be the best path for me.
Theresa: You know, I think what you just said was forced creation. I wonder if that is the, what a lot of people, creative people struggle with in marketing or other roles that you want to have ideate and create, but the forced creation can maybe take some of the fun out of it.
ometimes, you know, we think [:Yeah. It makes total sense.
Theresa: And one other thing that I wanna, um, go back to, and it brought me back to the beginning of our conversation when you shared that you first was interested in the direction of psychology. Yeah. Um, that's something I see a lot with Mavens and I love it because mavens are often curious about so many different things, not necessarily about everything.
Right? It's not just because you're a Maven, you have to know, be interested in, I don't know, every single industry. Yes, exactly. How a, um, technical whatever. It's like a technical manual is written like, no, I'm not interested, even if I'm a Maven. Um, but that interest doesn't always correlate to being fulfilled in doing that work.
So what I mean is like [:Right. I had quite a couple of therapists I've worked with as clients who were fascinated by psychology, loved studying psychology. They wanna know everything about the human mind. It's like one of the most fascinating topics to learn about. And they are still good therapists, but they are actually like other things, make them come alive.
It's that learning and some feel really fulfillment about learning from clients about them. But it's not, learning about an interesting topic isn't the same as working in that profession.
u, yeah, you, you nailed it. [:So fascinated by it and like the, the skills that you can develop and you know, the type of business that you can run, but actually doing it myself, I hated it.
Theresa: Yeah.
Rebecca: Truly. Like it was so draining. I mean, I shouldn't say I hated it. There were aspects that, that were beautiful and lovely. Um, but there were aspects of it that were so draining to me that it was like, that's, that's not it.
It's like you can like something in theory or like wanna learn about it, but you don't necessarily wanna do the. The nitty gritty or like the day in and day out of what it would require. Yeah,
Theresa: yeah,
Rebecca: yeah.
Theresa: And I love the exercise of you like, okay, let me actually visualize what I would do as a Pilates instructor.
k like? What do you do every [:Because I'm not, I'm probably gonna feel different than the other person about doing that work. And there are some people who would come alive being in front of a class and sharing all the Pilates moves, but not everyone would I, I know I couldn't do it.
Rebecca: Yeah. I don't, yeah, absolutely. I think something else that has been helpful , is having a sound, like a sounding board and .
I think asking, let's say like your partner and like yeah. You know, two or three other people that really know you and to kind of like challenge you in the best way possible.
Like I, I know if I'm ever on the fence about something and, and I turn to my partner and I'm like, what do you think? And he just always, he so he's so wise, I feel like, and he'll just, you know, he'll point me in the right direction and I'm like, and not necess.
o tell me what to do, but he [:Theresa: Yeah.
Rebecca: Maybe that's part of his archetype,
Theresa: maybe. You have to take half and take the assessment and let me know. Yeah, yeah. I will. Yeah. And there's so much to be said about asking other people and the right people of having someone who like, who knows you well.
Because a lot of times other people see more in you than you can see yourself. It's really hard, but only know what we are seeing, to see what's outside of that. But then also asking people who we really trust their advice of. 'cause someone might be like, yeah, you would be a cry, uh, Pilates instructor because they would love to do that work.
And then often put out the same lens on the other. Be like, oh, I, well I would love to be an interior designer and you're so good at, you're so creative. You should be an interior designer. Yeah. And that's valuable information. But then taking it, that's like, okay, this, this is their opinion. Is this also resonating with me or not?
ca: Absolutely. And I think, [:and sometimes I think, okay, I'm not inspired. I don't know what's gonna come out. Maybe nothing will come out, but somehow something always comes out.
Wow. And sometimes it's like really good stuff and other times it's like, ah, that's okay. But I still always feel good once I'm done. Like good during and good once I'm done.
Yeah. Yeah.
Theresa: But it's so important to listen to how you feel during, during and after. That's like the best indication if it's something you want to do more of or something you want to do less of.
Rebecca: Yeah.
Theresa: I mean [:Rebecca: I think truly, I mean this is like a whole other topic, but I think it's, it, it was on my mind for so long. Like literally like I. Two years of like, yeah, I love like writing poetry, but it would be so sporadic. It would be like, one week I would write and then I would wait in month and then I wouldn't, and so it wasn't very consistent.
Um, and then would kind of like pushed me to actually do it was when I was talking to a connection recently, lovely individual. And I shared, you know, I wanna, I wanna publish a book of poetry. And she's like, cool. She's like, what are you doing to get there? And I was like, actually right now, nothing. And I literally have no excuse.
friends or whatever else, I [:Theresa: Wow. What a powerful question.
Like, yeah, what, what's your dream? And then what are you doing to move towards that? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's so beautiful. I could talk to you forever. I know. Um, but to wrap it up, um, looking back at your journey and what brought you to today, what advice would you give to others who are five or 10 years younger?
Becky's and they are trying to find work that they love, make a living, but also really strain to. Staying true to themselves, because I think that is something you've done so beautiful. Is you, you are who you are. Yeah. How would you, what, do you have any advice for others to find that too?
Rebecca: Oh my gosh. I mean, first of all, thank you for saying that.
, I think like life has just [:So I think one thing I would say, or maybe a couple things I would say is if something, if something starts to not feel great. Listen to yourself and take like proactive steps and don't just, um, passively ride along. Yeah. So I think that's definitely one thing and um, because I think a lot of people wait until their situations aren't great or they're feeling burnt out.
et a therapist because, or a [:So yeah, I think. I'll leave it at those two, those two pieces. I love
and to actually just listen [:Not like, yeah. Like there's been a lot of quieter signals a long time before that that I was like, eh, don't need to listen to that. Or I'm not even noticing it. But like, oh, it's actually has a lot of wisdom. Our gut
Rebecca: or our body. So much wisdom. Yes. Yeah. We forget that like our, our gut and our, even our heart.
I mean, just all of the, all of it. And you're right, like the, the little whispers. It's, um, you know, they can be quiet at first and then you're getting like a metaphorically, a brick thrown at your head and then you're like, okay. You know? Yeah. And, and sometimes , you have to go through different things to learn it or, but I would say if you can learn it early on, it's super beneficial.
I absolutely agree.
There'll be a part two. Yes, [:Rebecca: Well, um, they can follow me on Instagram. It is Becky Scotty, so B-E-C-K-Y-S-E-O-T-T-Y.
Um, or they can follow, actually connect with me on LinkedIn. Um, it's Rebecca
Theresa: Scott. Love that. Thank you so much for being here. I love this conversation and I can't wait for part two. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much for having me, Theresa. Such a pleasure.
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